《the symposium》

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ut it would amply serve me to furnish me with sustenance。 Why; look you; whenever I desire to fare delicately; I have not to purchase precious viands in the market; which becomes expensive; but I open the storehouse of my soul; and dole them out。'63' Indeed; as far as pleasure goes; I find it better to await desire before I suffer meat or drink to pass my lips; than to have recourse to any of your costly viands; as; for instance; now; when I have chanced on this fine Thasian wine;'64' and sip it without thirst。 But indeed; the man who makes frugality; not wealth of worldly goods; his aim; is on the face of it a much more upright person。 And why? the man who is content with what he has will least of all be prone to clutch at what is his neighbour's。

'63' Or; 〃turn to the storehouse of a healthy appetite。〃 See 〃Apol。〃     18; the same sentiment 〃ex ore Socratis。〃

'64' See Athen。 〃Deipnos。〃 i。 28。

And here's a point worth noting。 Wealth of my sort will make you liberal of soul。 Look at Socrates; from him it was I got these riches。 He did not supply me with it by weight or by measure; but just as much as I could carry; he with bounteous hand consigned to me。 And I; too; grudge it to no man now。 To all my friends without distinction I am ready to display my opulence: come one; come all; and whosoever likes to take a share is welcome to the wealth that lies within my soul。 Yes; and moreover; that most luxurious of possessions;'65' unbroken leisure; you can see; is mine; which leaves me free to contemplate things worthy of contemplation;'66' and to drink in with my ears all charming sounds。 And what I value most; freedom to spend whole days in pure scholastic intercourse'67' with Socrates; to whom I am devoted。'68' And he; on his side; is not the person to admire those whose tale of gold and silver happens to be the largest; but those who are well…pleasing to him he chooses for companions; and will consort with to the end。

'65' See Eur。 〃Ion;〃 601。 Lit。 〃at every moment I command it。〃

'66' 〃To gaze upon all fairest shows (like a spectator in the     theatre); and to drink in sounds most delectable。〃 So Walt     Whitman。

'67' Aristot。 〃Rhet。〃 ii。 4。 12; 〃Eth。 N。〃 ix。 4。 9。

'68' See 〃Mem。〃 III。 xi。 17。

With these words the speaker ended; and Callias exclaimed:

By Hera; I envy you your wealth; Antisthenes; firstly; because the state does not lay burthens on you and treat you like a slave; and secondly; people do not fall into a rage with you when you refuse to be their creditor。

You may stay your envy (interposed Niceratus); I shall presently present myself to borrow of him this same key of his to independence。'69' Trained as I am to cast up figures by my master Homer

    Seven tripods; which ne'er felt the fire; and of gold ten talents     And burnished braziers twenty; and horses twelve'70'

by weight and measure duly reckoned;'71' I cannot stay my craving for enormous wealth。 And that's the reason certain people; I daresay; imagine I am inordinately fond of riches。

'69' Or; 〃his want…for…nothing;〃 or; 〃supply…all。〃

'70' Niceratus quotes 〃Il。〃 ix。 122; 123; 263; 264。

'71' Or; 〃by number and by measure;〃 〃so much apiece; so much a     pound;〃 in reference to Antisthenes' remark that Socrates does not     stint his 〃good things。〃

The remark drew forth a peal of laughter from the company; who thought the speaker hit the truth exactly。

Then some one: It lies with you; Hermogenes; to tell us who your friends are; and next; to demonstrate the greatness of their power and their care for you; if you would prove to us your right to pride yoruself on them。

Herm。 That the gods know all things; that the present and the future lie before their eyes; are tenets held by Hellenes and barbarians alike。 This is obvious; or else; why do states and nations; one and all; inquire of the gods by divination what they ought to do and what they ought not? This also is apparent; that we believe them able to do us good and to do us harm; or why do all men pray to Heaven to avert the evil and bestow the good? Well then; my boast is that these gods; who know and can do all things;'72' deign to be my friends; so that; by reason of their care for me; I can never escape from their sight;'73' neither by night nor by day; whithersoever I essay to go; whatsoever I take in hand to do。'74' But because they know beforehand the end and issue of each event; they give me signals; sending messengers; be it some voice;'75' or vision of the night; with omens of the solitary bird; which tell me what I should and what I should not do。 When I listen to their warnings all goes well with me; I have no reason to repent; but if; as ere now has been the case; I have been disobedient; chastisement has overtaken me。

'72' Cf。 〃Mem。〃 I。 i。 19; I。 iv。 18。

'73' Schneid。 cf。 Hom。 〃Il。〃 x。 279; {oude se letho kinomenos}; 〃nor     doth any motion of mine escape thee〃 (A。 Lang); and see Arrian;     〃Epictet。〃 i。 12。 3。

'74' Cf。 Ps。 cxxxix。 〃Domine probasti。〃

'75' See 〃Mem。〃 I。 i。 3; 〃Apol。〃 xii。 13; 〃Cyrop。〃 VIII。 vii。 3。

Then Socrates: All this I well believe;'76' but there is one thing I would gladly learn of you: What service do you pay the gods; so to secure their friendship?

'76' Lit。 〃Nay; nought of the things you tell us is incredible;     but 。 。 。〃

Truly it is not a ruinous service; Socrates (he answered)far from it。 I give them thanks; which is not costly。 I make return to them of all they give to me from time to time。 I speak well of them; with all the strength I have。 And whenever I take their sacred names to witness; I do not wittingly falsify my word。

Then God be praised (said Socrates); if being what you are; you have such friends; the gods themselves; it would appear; delight in nobleness of soul。'77'

'77' {kalokagathia}; 〃beautiful and gentle manhood。〃

Thus; in solemn sort; the theme was handled; thus gravely ended。

But now it was the jester's turn; and so they fell to asking him:'78' What could he see to pride himself upon so vastly in the art of making people laugh?

'78' Lit。 〃now that they had come to Philippus (in the 'period' of     discussion); they 。 。 。〃 Or read; after Hartman; 〃An。 Xen。〃 p。     242; {eken} (sc。 {o logos})。

Surely I have good reason (he replied)。 The whole world knows my business is to set them laughing; so when they are in luck's way; they eagerly invite me to a share of it; but if ill betide them; helter… skelter off they go; and never once turn back;'79' so fearful are they I may set them laughing will he nill he。

'79' Plat。 〃Rep。〃 620 E; 〃Laws;〃 854 C。

Nic。 Heavens! you have good reason to be proud; with me it is just the opposite。 When any of my friends are doing well; they take good care to turn their backs on me;'80' but if ever it goes ill with them; they claim relationship by birth;'81' and will not let their long…lost cousin out of sight。

'80' Or; 〃they take good care to get out of my way;〃 〃they hold aloof     from me entirely。〃

'81' Or; 〃produce the family…pedigree and claim me for a cousin。〃 Cf。     Lucian v。; 〃Tim。〃 49; Ter。 〃Phorm。〃 ii。 33; 45。

Charm。 Well; well! and you; sir (turning to the Syracusan); what do you pride yourself upon? No doubt; upon the boy?

The Syr。 Not I; indeed; I am terribly afraid concerning him。 It is plain enough to me that certain people are contriving for his ruin。'82'

'82' {diaphtheirai} = (1) to destroy; make away with; (2) to ruin and     corrupt; seduce by bribes or otherwise。

Good gracious!'83' (Socrates exclaimed; when he heard that); what crime can they conceive your boy is guilty of that they should wish to make an end of him?

'83' Lit。 〃Heracles!〃 〃Zounds!〃

The Syr。 I do not say they want to murder him; but wheedle him away with bribes to pass his nights with them。

Soc。 And if that happened; you on your side; it appears; believe the boy will be corrupted?

The Syr。 Beyond all shadow of a doubt; most villainously。

Soc。 And you; of course; you never dream of such a thing。 You don't spend nights with him?

The Syr。 Of course I do; all night and every night。

Soc。 By Hera; what a mighty piece of luck'84' for youto be so happily compounded; of such flesh and blood。 You alone can't injure those who sleep beside you。 You have every right; it seems; to boast of your own flesh; if nothing else。

'84' Cf。 Plat。 〃Symp。〃 217 A。

The Syr。 Nay; in sooth; it is not on that I pride myself。

Soc。 Well; on what then?

The Syr。 Why; on the silly fools who come and see my puppet show。'85' I live on them。

'85' 〃My marionettes。〃 Cf。 Herod。 ii。 48; Lucian lxxii。; 〃De Syr。 d。〃     16; Aristot。 〃de Mund。〃 6。

Phil。 Ah yes! and that explains how the other day I heard you praying to the gods to grant you; wheresoe'er you chance to be; great store of corn and wine; but dearth of wits。'86'

'86' Or; 〃of fruits abundance; but of wits a famine。〃 Cf。 Plat。 〃Rep。〃     546 A。 His prayer resembles that of the thievish trader in Ovid;     〃Fast。〃 v。 675 foll。; 〃Grant me to…day my daily 。 。 。 fraud!〃 but     in spite of himself (like Dogberry); he seems to pray to the gods     to 〃write him down an ass〃!

Pass on (said Callias); now it is your turn; Socrates。 What have you to say to justify your choice? How can you boast of so discredited an art?'87'

'87' Sc。 〃the hold…door trade。〃

He answered: Let us first decide'88' what are the duties of the good go…between;'89' and please to answer every question without hesitating; let us know the points to which we mutually assent。'90' Are you agreed to that?

'88' Or; 〃define in common。〃 Cf。 〃Mem。〃 IV。 vi。 15。

'89' Or; 〃man…praiser。〃 Cf。 〃The Manx Witch;〃 p。 47 (T。 E。 Brown);     〃And Harry; more like a dooiney…molla For Jack; lak helpin him to     woo。〃 See; too; Mr。 Hall Caine's 〃Manxman;〃 p。 73。

'90' See Plat。 〃Rep。〃 342 D; for a specimen of Socratic procedure;     〃from one point of agreement to another。〃

The Company; in chorus。 Without a doubt (they answered; and the formula; once started; was every time repeated by the company; full chorus)。

Soc。 Are you agreed it is the business of a good go…between to make him (or her) on whom he plies his art agreeable to those with them?'91'

'91' Al。 〃their followers。〃 See 〃Mem。〃 II。 vi。 36。

Omnes。 W
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